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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.12.08 10:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Neo Gabriel
PS: If they dont ban eveyrone taht rmts and installs a warden type program i will cancel my accounts, because it will prevent future botting.
If they did start using a warden type program like WoW does then I'd probably cancel my account.
Uninstalling WoW and then removing the left over Blizzard files, tends to mess up your system. Which, then is much simpler to reformat your hard drive to sort out the problem.
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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.12.08 13:50:00 -
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The biggest problem are the buyers because without out the buyers there would be no sellers.
My obvious statement of the day!
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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.12.08 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Forum Guy on 08/12/2010 14:13:44
Originally by: Jaqel Broadside
Edited by: Jaqel Broadside on 08/12/2010 13:56:04
Most of the botting problems could be solved immediately with the following:
1) Remove local -> Removes the information used by botters to warp and cloak.
2) Cloaking can only be continuous fora short period of time, after which the cloak burns out. Cloaking for transport works fine as jump gates "allow" cool down time - timer reset.
3) Remove sovereignty, free space should allow anyone to go try and take it by force at any time.
4) Stop putting high isk value at static sites.
5) Remove all static sites and make them scannable only - no static asteroid belts, NPC sites, complexes etc
6) Stop penalising high sec play and putting ever more ISK into null sec - up and coming players have to be able to challenge established playuers - give them the means to do so.
7) Stop creating expensive all out GANK ships like Titans and Motherships. No one ship should be that all encompassing that a few players can dominate regions.
8) Ban any kind of wealth transfer system to trial accounts above a few 100K isk - ie by trade or transfer ISK or named contract. Allow market and open contracts only.
9) NPCs should hunt players doing repetative play as NPCs do in FW or if you have bad sec in a region. As all good commanders would in RL, they'd hunt the main protagonists.
10) Limit play time to a maximum of a set number of hours per 48 hours - people HAVE to sleep bots dont.
11) Reward interactive play, monitor chat channels and if repetative or no chat exists from players then they are flagged as bots -> easy investigation.
12) It should be easy to spot any program running on a computer that interfaces with the APIs that allow botting to be performed. Microsoft should be able to tell you how to sppot these programs easily.
By nerfing hisec activities all CCP has been doing is raising the bar on peole being able to afford to challenge established nullsec players.
START REWARDING INTERACTIVE PLAY A WHOLE LOT MORE.
OTT springs to mind.
I'd like to see the buyers hit hard not the sellers, because like I said before it's the buyers that perpetuate the market.
I used to mine in a Hulk with one character with cargo expanders. Took about 20 minutes to fill up, once full fly back to the station unload then fly back to the book-marked asteroid and repeat. Even have been asked if I was a bot in the past whilst mining. Mining is not that interactive, great for watching a film or reading a book at the same time.
As for a time limit that's just a daft idea. I myself can easily knock-up 32+ hours in 2 days if I wish.
I also see people slipping in the get rid of local in 0.0 argument as a solution which just says to me its pvp players that want to get rid of local for pvp reasons using botters as the excuse.
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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.12.08 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: chrisss0r
u mad?
if you kill off methods to turn your cash into isk legally people will do it by rmt.
if you kill off methods to use your isk to buy a character people will instead sell their isk for cash and use the cash to buy a character.
plex and charactertrade DECREASE rmt. Killing off plex/gtc would be the best thing you can do for the rmt guys.
just like banning alcohol was a ****ing kickstart for the 30's mafia business
Stiffer penalties for buyers would help may deter some from going that route.
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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.12.11 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Do you really want to 1/4 population ( yes that icludes big alliances macro fleets ) of the servers to dissapear . How will taht look for CCP.
Theres more than one way to fix any problem, banning isnt the only solution, right now though I would like to know what they are addressing.
Problem is, if they tell Eve players what they're doing, at the same time they will be informing the botters what they're doing. Which will give the botters time to do something about it.
If they do give any feed-back on the botter problem, then it's best to get it after they've acted.
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